The Subversion of Christianity

The Subversion of Christianity Pointing to the many contradictions between the Bible and the practice of the church Jacques Ellul asserts that what we today call Christianity is actually far removed from the revelation of God Succ

  • Title: The Subversion of Christianity
  • Author: Jacques Ellul Geoffrey William Bromiley
  • ISBN: 9780802800497
  • Page: 187
  • Format: Paperback
  • Pointing to the many contradictions between the Bible and the practice of the church, Jacques Ellul asserts that what we today call Christianity is actually far removed from the revelation of God Successive generations have reinterpreted Scripture and modeled it after their own cultures, thus moving society further from the truth of the original gospel The church also pePointing to the many contradictions between the Bible and the practice of the church, Jacques Ellul asserts that what we today call Christianity is actually far removed from the revelation of God Successive generations have reinterpreted Scripture and modeled it after their own cultures, thus moving society further from the truth of the original gospel The church also perverted the gospel message, for instead of simply doing away with pagan practice and belief, it reconstituted the sacred, set up its own religious forms, and thus resacralized the world Ellul develops several areas in which this perversion is most obvious, including the church s emphasis on moralism and its teaching in the political sphere The heart of the problem, he says, is that we have not accepted the fact that Christianity is a scandal we attempt to make it acceptable and easy and thus pervert its true message.

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    • Bart Breen says:

      Recognizing where Christianity has been Subverted carries the seeds of how it will be ReclaimedRarely have I taken as long to read a book as I have in working through this one. The content demanded reading, re-reading and pauses to consider what was being said. Make no mistake, this is a book that requires careful and attentive reading to hear what it is saying as well as to discern what it is not saying.Jacques Ellul was a prolific writer in his native French and more of his works are being tra [...]

    • Emi says:

      In summary, it's the Grand Inquisitor (Dostoevsky), expanded and retold by a French sociologist Jacques Ellul who concludes in the spirit of Alyosha.I had never read anything by Ellul but was drawn to him through some references made by Walter Brueggemann (and I think also by Neil Postman). Influences of Kierkegaard and Barth are evident.There were occasions where I felt some strain in his exegesis but he offers an enlightening perspective on church history not to condemn but to awaken -- althou [...]

    • Jeffrey says:

      Ellul's radical thesis in this book: Christianity has been perverted from its original essence. The formalistic organizations of the Church; the affirmation of the various social status quo within the Protestant Ethics; the substitution of revelation for easy to understand images (e.g. Father, Son, Baby), and more--all these pervert the purpose, and indeed, the true meaning of Christianity. Ellul brought a powerful mind to a challengingly acerbic theological thesis. In more than a few parts, Ell [...]

    • James says:

      Like Barth and Brunner before him, Jacques Ellul makes a distinction between the true faith and a institutionalized, world-encrusted religion. In "The Subversion of Christianity," Ellul condemns the Christian religion as a faith subverted by the world. He decries the triumph of philosophy. Theologians readily begin with the biblical witness or revelation but then quickly leave it behind. In a desire to reach the truth, they develop moral codes, philosophical systems, and metaphysical constructs. [...]

    • Andrew says:

      I like Ellul and he's a competent and lucid debater. I think many of his arguments in this book fall into the same traps that plague just about every debate over the "real meaning" of Christianity. For Ellul, he takes passages and says "look what it clearly says here!" and at other times "this is what it says but the Holy Spirit/sense says we should actually understand it as saying" Toward the end I was thinking the title is more apt as "The Subversion of the Reformation."

    • Eric_W says:

      We read this book in our reading club several years ago. Ellul was a French philosopher who argues that in the 4th century the alliance of Christianity with the power of the state under Constantine essentially changed the very nature of Christianity and encouraged the development of authoritarian thinking as the church now had the power of the state to enforce orthodoxy.

    • Michael Camp says:

      A must read for every Christian. Jacques Ellul cuts to the chase in exposing the many misguided practices and beliefs of the church throughout history. The true message of the gospel has been perverted and Ellul will help you see the original meaning with new eyes.

    • Frankie Della Torre says:

      Jacques Ellul's thesis is simple: God's revelation to the world in Christ has been infiltrated and warped into something it's not. The result of this infiltration is: Christendom. The Christian religion is synonymous with "Christendom." In its inherent form, the revelation of God in Christ is not a religion; it is, rather, the end of religion. It is anti-religious (hence why the first Christ followers were labelled "atheists" - they did not believe in any of the sacred festivals and superstition [...]

    • A.J. Jr. says:

      "I will simply recall that the subversion of Christianity has come through its letting itself be penetrated and seduced and led by the prince of this world." (Jacques Ellul, p. 180)

    • Bob says:

      Although I give this book 3 (maybe 4 stars) it is not for everyone. The author intent is to show how the church throughout history has consistently been led away from truly living out the gospel -- whether by outside forces or by the weight of its own success.He is very careful about the charges that he makes against Christianity. His arguments are subtle, & Ellul is quick to acknowledge the hyperbole of those who criticize the faith from the outside. Nonetheless, he often finds a kernel of [...]

    • Collin says:

      Dense. It's a fascinating topic, but reading this book is like eating a sleeve of saltine crackers without anything to drink. It's taking me quite a while to read because I can only stand a couple of pages at a time.--update: I skimmed the penultimate chapter, skipped the last chapter altogether, and threw it away. I don't like the way the author writes PLUS I don't trust the translation (it was originally written in French), I don't like how self-absorbed the author is (only his interpretation [...]

    • James R. C. says:

      Those who enjoy the focus on order and unity in Luc, Ferry, The Wisdom of the Myths; Michael J. Harner, Cave and Cosmos will gain from this book by Ellul. From the beginnings of the Christianity through modern day, the theological, political, economic, and military history is "the result of a primordial obsession with unity: the reduction of the diversity of the world to the one." Jacques Ellul sees our God as one of beginnings and revelation, not organization and institution: eppur si muove (ye [...]

    • Leandro Guimarães says:

      Une des mes meilleures léctures récentes, avec John H Walton & Jean-Marc Berthoud — même que ce soient trois auteurs bien différents, quasiment opposés, sourtoût Berthoud & Ellul.Un défi pour chrétiens & incroyants, & surtoût pour l’église.Je voulais pouvoir enlever demi étoile car il éloge un mouvement de libération amérindien tout en critiquant la théologie de la libération — même que ce mouvement n’aie jamais éxisté hors de sa théologie. Je retiens [...]

    • Sara says:

      Sometimes a bit hard to read because he rather likes tangents and doesn't follow all the "correct" writing forms. Some things I didn't fully agree with and/or was confused by, but in general I really appreciated all that he had to say. I will need to do some digesting and mulling for a while. I stimulated on of the best discussions we've had at book club!

    • Psykeactiv1 says:

      I hated this book with a passion because of its spot on accuracy, however this book is geared to apologetics and skeptics who have doubts on philosophical grounds. Jaques Ellul approaches Christianity from radical but skeptical points of view that represent many in and outside the body of Christ.

    • Jordan says:

      So far, this is my favorite book by Ellul. It (very) loosely reads like "A People's History of Christianity," pointing out the ways that lies have crept into the Church over 2,000 years. The sections about women (specifically in the chapter on Moralism) are fantastic. Please read it.

    • Kevin says:

      I highly recommend this book. It needs to be read slowly, but is really perspective changing. The only reason that I do not give it 5 stars, is because it falls apart a little bit at the end. A definite must read for anyone interested in Theology.

    • Nathan Colquhoun says:

      Tough to read as he doesn't grow his argument very well, but overall an excellent book and important.

    • Michael S says:

      Thoughtful, challenging and fascinating, the best book on Christianity that I have ever read.

    • Aaron says:

      This may be the most influential book I've read to date. It started a shift in my thinking that has changed the way I think and live on many different levels.

    • Paco says:

      Incredible and awesome. Makes your life really difficult to live afterwards though. Shows in Ellul's usual clear and sometimes hilarious style how far off course Christianity has gotten.

    • Hartman Out says:

      Livre qui a changé ma vie et ma foi.

    • Scott says:

      That what I (as an Western, Conservative, American, Californian) think of and practice as "Christianity" is very possibly a shallow and subverted version of what Jesus taught.

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