The Dosadi Experiment

The Dosadi Experiment Beyond the God WallGenerations of a tormented human alien people caged on a toxic planet conditioned by constant hunger and war this is the Dosadi Experiment and it has succeeded too well For the D

  • Title: The Dosadi Experiment
  • Author: Frank Herbert
  • ISBN: 9780765342539
  • Page: 236
  • Format: Paperback
  • Beyond the God WallGenerations of a tormented human alien people, caged on a toxic planet, conditioned by constant hunger and war this is the Dosadi Experiment, and it has succeeded too well For the Dosadi have bred for Vengeance as well as cunning, and they have learned how to pass through the shimmering God Wall to exact their dreadful revenge on the Universe that creatBeyond the God WallGenerations of a tormented human alien people, caged on a toxic planet, conditioned by constant hunger and war this is the Dosadi Experiment, and it has succeeded too well For the Dosadi have bred for Vengeance as well as cunning, and they have learned how to pass through the shimmering God Wall to exact their dreadful revenge on the Universe that created them .

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    • Lyn says:

      I have learned about myself that I don’t (as a principle) like series. This seems to be the new vision of science fiction and fantasy writers as any browsing of new books will see Book 2 of this and number 4 of the series in that. I would like to say to writers, “Present an original idea, say what you want to say, have some fun with it, do it well, and slap a The End on the back and move on to something else.” Now, having said that, I still do read series; too many talented writers are spe [...]

    • Stephen says:

      4.0 to 4.5 stars. This is best "non Dune" book by Frank Herbert that I have read. It is a sequel of sorts to Whipping Star (a book I did not really like) and is set in the universe of the ConSentiency. The basic plot involves a secret experiment in which a group of humans and aliens are kidnapped and placed on a planet with a brutal environment in order to produce( no spoilers).In tone, this story reminded me a lot of the later Dune books in so far as its focus on the psychological motivations o [...]

    • Nomi says:

      I wanted to give this book a low rating because the first 70 pages are painfully boring and unintelligible on the first read and the ending is kind of blah Nevertheless, it has some unbelievably redeeming qualities (if you're a Dune fanatic) and I even suspect that these 70 pages might yield whole new insights upon the second reading. I'd even go so far as to say that this is a must read for any serious Dune afficianados because the text provides one more point of entry into that universe and th [...]

    • Ric says:

      This had the makings of a second "Dune", twelve years after publication of that ground-breaking book. And all the elements are here: a richly-imagined world - Dosadi, a strong emotional focus - an enslaved population, a back story that goes back generations, and sinister forces to ramp up the suspense. And, also in prime form, Herbert's dramatic, impactful prose.And Herbert kept the suspense at a peak for much of the book. The story could have taken a turn for something entirely different at vir [...]

    • J.M. Hushour says:

      Herbert is the master of what I call whafuck?! in genre fiction. With masterly aplomb, he crafts devious and often hilarious worlds with nary an explanation and then forces it down your throat with nary a warning.It's obvious that if you haven't read the first book "Whipping Star" you will be largely lost reading "Dosadi". But that doesn't mean that you didn't leave "Whipping Star" without a whafuck?! in your frontbrain, because I bet you did, and that's why Herbert is so fun to read."Dosadi" ca [...]

    • Rob says:

      My opinion that The Dosadi Experiment is Herbert's best non-Dune book has remained unchanged. It is a novel that summarizes many of the themes that can be found in his works but also highlights some of the problems with his writing. The lack of character development, the constantly changing viewpoints and the cognitive leaps that characterize the novel keep it from being a great work. Herbert's grasp of the ideas he wants to discuss is unrivaled in science fiction but the way he translates them [...]

    • Bart says:

      ()The Dosadi Experimenti>'s basic problem is that the reader can’t really partake in its supposedly deeply intellectual plays. An important part of this book is courtroom drama: the main character, Jorj X. McKie, is not only a top notch secret agent, coincidentally he is also the only guy in the universe who was accepted at the bar of the Gowachin court – the Gowachin being frog like aliens who have a legal system with intricate, changing rules and high stakes, the courtroom being an aren [...]

    • Douglas says:

      I'll start with a side note here: The cover of the edition I read had a synopsis that had only a slight similarity to the actual content of the book. So if you have some similar copy and are curious what's inside, don't read the book cover. It'll mislead you some. Consider yourself warned.Although Frank Herbert is best known for his Dune series, he wrote other science fiction. The Dosadi is in this "other" category -- other in that it takes place in an entirely different universe than what occur [...]

    • Ethan says:

      If you've ever wondered what Dune would be like with aliens and computers, well that's not exactly what this is, but it is a non-Dune Frank Herbert space opera so that's sort of what's going on. I was able to follow the basic arc of the plot, but I admit a lot of the details of the intrigues ("plans within plans within plans" à la Dune) were hard to follow; it was also difficult to keep track of all the characters, factions, alien species, etc.The basic plot centers on McKie and Jedrik. McKie i [...]

    • Kevin says:

      I am perhaps too lenient on this book, else this review will serve as a confession that I am too stupid to grok the Dosadi mindset. But I think that the weakness of characterization that is a standard scifi caveat hinders this novel, one of Herbert's most ambitious(I say skiffy instead of scifi usually, cause I don't give a fuck. Yeah that's right). As in Dune, Herbert attempts a merciless dissection of society. Dune, rightly regarded as a classic, began as an exploration of the effect of trade [...]

    • Steve says:

      The first 70 pages are hard to follow but things quickly fall into place afterwards. So be prepared.I really enjoyed the story but the motivation of the main character was a little unclear to me.What I especially enjoyed was how the writing mirrored the story; The confusion you feel as a reader mirrors the confusion McKie feels when landing on Dosadi and trying to integrate into their society. The brisk pace of the book mirrors the brisk mental pace of the Dosadi inhabitants. Another author migh [...]

    • Herbert says:

      Fascinating insight nto the internecine underpinnings of modern urban culture and basic complexities of natural human subversion. Riveting Sci-Fi. Timeless in so many of it's implications. Applicable to today, the Tang Dynasty, the Obama Administration 2013.

    • Neil says:

      It was an okay book. It took a while to get into it; there were enough gems interspersed to keep me hoping it might get better. I was pleasantly surprised that it did.One part I liked/thought was hilarious: (view spoiler)[that McKie was described as looking like the frog-god of one of the races, and that because of this they gave him more deference than they would any other human. The guy was described as being of Polynesian descent with a flat face and big lips. He had a stocky, muscular body. [...]

    • Dennis says:

      I was a bit surprised at first to find this book has such mixed reviews on here. I first read it as a teenager and it made a big impression on me. I have just recently finished re-reading it and if anything am more awe-struck than before. Unlike last time I also tracked down and read Herbert's earlier ConSentiency writings (The Tactful Saboteur and Whipping Star) which are far more amateurish than The Dosadi Experiment but help to fill in the background.Herbert likes characters who are super sma [...]

    • Tim says:

      I enjoy Science Fiction - this one is hard to explain, but for those who've read some of Frank Herbert's Dune series, this one is understandable and regularly surprising.An experiment by two races (human and one other) who have put "volunteers" of their population on to a planet, quarantined it, and allowed the two populations struggle to find their way under very tough survival conditions.The experiment has gone on secretly for decades, with the fear that this experiment is strictly illegal und [...]

    • Chris says:

      This may be my favorite of Herbert's books outside of the Dune series and the Jesus Incident trilogy. I almost wish that this universe he created, it could be expanded to a series. Much is left to the imagination and the insinuation of the reader, in a way Herbert does early on with Dune.Many similar aspects between Dune and this universe are seen chairdogs, Galach language, etc, except that this one includes multiple sentient, and 1 supersentient, species. The overall theme is typical Herbert: [...]

    • Denis says:

      As with Poul Anderson, I've only chipped at the iceburg-body of work from this author, therefore, I can not judge him too harshly. Yes, it is obvious that he is a master writer with complex yet solid plotting and inspiring world building And it is true, that I have not yet read the Dune series, I have tried a few early short stories and the later novel "White Plague" and had to give up on those - just did not grab me! 'Cause man, I would really rather read better stories by less competent writer [...]

    • Boris says:

      Wow. I loved Frank Herbert in middle school, and I hadn't realized just how poor a writer he was. It's especially apparent in this and Whipping Star. Herbert was skilled at creating fascinatingly foreign and complex cultures, and then demonstrating through them the tedious ideas of 1950s-era business gurus which he seemed to hold in high regard. He reminds me of Hubbard in that respect. Of course, he's still a much better writer than that!

    • Conal says:

      This was a book that I had thought I read in the past but turned out to be new to me (unless extreme CRS has set in). This was a solid space opera tale told by one of the past masters of this genre and was a really enjoyable story. I will need to pick up the first story with Jorj X. Mckie so I can see the past that is discussed in this one.4.5 stars for a really fun read. Recommended for any fans of space opera especially if you enjoyed Dune!!

    • Aerin says:

      It's not so much that this book was bad, as that it was incredibly boring.

    • Jacob says:

      A complicated story that makes several leaps that I'm still shaking my head over, but an enjoyable story that leaves me wishing Frank Herbert had explored this universe.

    • Laura says:

      I feel bad giving such a classic sci-fi writer such a low rating, but this book had some issues. I've been explaining it to people this way, I love his ideas, I don't always like his writing. There's far too much convenient mind-melding to make it even relatable. It’s one thing to have something like that be part of the plot, but it loses the reader when all of the important relationships are explained by magic hand-waving and instant fixes. I couldn’t relate to the characters at all, and it [...]

    • Keith says:

      It has been years since I read "The Whipping Star". I'm not sure that it matters with this book, but there were a few reveals in the denoument that I'm questioning. One is the past history of the main character. That he was married many, many times. I'm not sure why this was important, but it just pops up a few times. The other was the purpose behind the Dosadi project (see spoiler tag below). The idea is curious, but it felt like it came out of left field. And the explaination for how it was ac [...]

    • Amber Dunten says:

      Shortly after starting The Dosadi Experiment, I said to my boyfriend, “This book reminds me a lot of Dune. I have no idea what's going on, and I feel like a total simpleton in this world.” His response: “Welcome to Frank Herbert.”Know going in that Frank Herbert wrote challenging books. His stories describe social and legal structures so byzantine they require page upon page of explanation, and political maneuverings so subtle that empires can seemingly fall on the arch of an eyebrow. Cl [...]

    • Stephanie Ricker says:

      Definitely better than Whipping Star, and set in the same ConSentiency universe that Herbert created. Again, the world-building is the best part of the book; it's such a strength with Herbert that it becomes the thing that carries the book. The plot is confusing, and some of the assumptions don't seem sensical. The characters are fairly unlovable. But the reader wants to keep going just to learn more about the universe Herbert has created. There isn't the universe depth of the Dune series; that' [...]

    • Adna says:

      Towards the end of the book Herbert starts a chapter with a quote from a fictitious book titled 'Insights (a glimpse of early Human philosophy)'. It goes like this: 'In a changing universe, only a changing species can hope to be immortal and then only if its eggs are nurtured in widely scattered environments. This predicts a wealth of unique individuals.' Sounds familiar? If you've read any of Herbert’s Dune novels, it probably does.However, unlike roses a 'Golden Path' by any other name does [...]

    • Tara says:

      Not my favourite by Herbert (and I should probably have read the first one first) but still pretty enjoyable.

    • Daniel says:

      An interesting read. Frank Herbert certainly loves delving into the nuances of human interaction. Although the interplay is excessively superlative at times, it is still a unique and enjoyable read.

    • Darin says:

      Well it's not Done. Meh at best.

    • Patrick says:

      JDN 2456280 EDT 17:06.The Dosadi Experiment was a novel Frank Herbert wrote in the middle of his career, with some Dune books before it (up to Children of Dune) and some after it (God Emperor of Dune and beyond). Actually, come to think of it, it's roughly "the good Dune books" before and "the bad Dune books" after. It's a strange novel, longer than it needed to be, and with characters who manage to be complex without being particularly interesting or sympathetic. The closest to sympathetic are [...]

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