Elective Affinities

Elective Affinities Elective Affinities was written when Goethe was sixty and long established as Germany s literary giant This is a new edition of his penetrating study of marriage and passion bringing together four pe

  • Title: Elective Affinities
  • Author: Johann Wolfgang von Goethe David Constantine سعید پیرمرادی
  • ISBN: 9780192837769
  • Page: 460
  • Format: Paperback
  • Elective Affinities was written when Goethe was sixty and long established as Germany s literary giant This is a new edition of his penetrating study of marriage and passion, bringing together four people in an inexorable manner The novel asks whether we have free will or not and confronts its characters with the monstrous consequences of repressing what little real lifElective Affinities was written when Goethe was sixty and long established as Germany s literary giant This is a new edition of his penetrating study of marriage and passion, bringing together four people in an inexorable manner The novel asks whether we have free will or not and confronts its characters with the monstrous consequences of repressing what little real life they have in themselves, a life so far removed from their natural states that it appears to them as something terrible and destructive.

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    • Issicratea says:

      What a very strange novel! It’s extraordinarily hybrid. One minute you are reading an aristocratic comedy of manners; the next, a philosophical essay; the next, a brooding, proto-symbolist, mythopoetic exploration of the workings of fate. I loved reading it for that reason, in the measured, twenty-thirty page doses that are all that my workload permits at the moment. I never had the least sense, from one day to the next, which Elective Affinities was going to show up.That makes Goethe’s nove [...]

    • Vasha7 says:

      I read this beautiful novel in German. Though I might have objected to how structured it is, so full of symbols and echoes, in the hands of a master like Goethe it only contributes to the subtle atmosphere. What's more, the characters are individual and detailed, as comes out through their interactions and words. I found myself pitying Ottilie rather than being annoyed by her submissiveness (in any case, there's more to her than submissiveness); and Charlotte struck me as one of the most likable [...]

    • Ana Carvalheira says:

      Após a leitura de “As Afinidades Eletivas”, escrita em 1809, ocorreu-me debruçar sobre a análise deste extraordinário romance de uma forma diferente, respondendo apenas a uma pergunta: porque Johann Wolfgang Goethe é tão atual conseguindo, no século 21, reunir tantos admiradores à volta da sua obra? E reside na pena desse notável escritor alemão a resposta:1. “Com uma tal atitude, vós mulheres, sereis realmente invencíveis. Primeiro, razoáveis, de modo que não é possível co [...]

    • Boris says:

      Goethe doesn't just write in German, he is the very definition of the German language. This book, as well as das Leiden des Jungen Werters, have clearly shown to me the beauty of die Deutsche Sprache. Because of this reason I would recommend everybody with only the slightest knowledge of German, to read this in the original language. A translation could never grasp the majestic feeling in which Goethe seems to soak all his words. Die Wahlverwandschaften is in the first place a book about interpe [...]

    • Laura says:

      Free download available at Project Gutenberg.Page 25:And those are the cases which are really most important and remarkable— cases where this attraction, this affinity, this separating and combining, can be exhibited, the two pairs severally crossing each other; where four creatures, connected previously, as two and two, are brought into contact, and at once forsake their first combination to form into a second. In this forsaking and embracing, this seeking and flying, we believe that we are i [...]

    • Wanda says:

      7 JUN 2014 - Tsk! Tsk! Why does a seemingly content couple allow a friend to talk them into a science experiment of their hearts. Fools! P.S. Edward is a spoiled man-child. Yuck!8 JUN 2014 - I am wondering if Mittler's character is meant to be the voice of reason -- he flits in, gives his opinion, and leaves as quickly as he entered. And, no one pays much attention to him.15 JUN 2014 -- this read was frustrating for me. I simply could not understand why a happy couple would want to willingly con [...]

    • Miles says:

      A proper analysis of this book can only be executed by readers with a thorough knowledge of early 19th-century literary tropes and gender roles. I am no such reader. To me, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe’s Elective Affinities felt like a soap opera from a parallel universe (i.e. Europe’s romantic period). While containing some terrific turns of phrase and a few ruminations about human nature that still ring true, Elective Affinities is first and foremost a paragon of anachronism. The motivations [...]

    • Mike says:

      I really loved this. It feels like I've barely scratched the surface of it it though. Goethe himself said that you have to read this three times before you get it. I'm looking forward to spending time with this book again.

    • Georgia says:

      It was interesting. Goethe wrote this book in part as a meditation and exploration of the scientific developments that were happening at the time. Specifically he was interested in chemistry and the law of attraction. "The tendency of those elements which, when they come into contact, at once take hold of, and act on one another, we call 'affinity', states one of the characters in the book. So Goethe applies these laws that are being discovered in chemistry to human relationships, and so creates [...]

    • Giulia says:

      Come on, Wolfie, you can do so much better.

    • Steven says:

      [will write a review when I have the time]

    • Barbara Ellison says:

      Sometimes you read a novel where you wouldn't mind if every single character is dead by the end and this is one of them.

    • Markus says:

      Die Wahlverwandtschaften (1809)« Elective Affinities » Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)This novel is noted as one of Goethe’s most significant works. For the modern reader, the term of Elective Affinities could be understood as a condition, which is open to emotions and romances. At Goethe's time, however, it had a technical meaning, used only in chemistry. The fact that Goethe made use of this term, and its subsequent modern interpretation, is due to the author's genius and explained [...]

    • Genia Lukin says:

      You really have to be partial to horrible overblown, overdramatic, overemotional gothica and romanticism to feel affection for this book, but if you do it's really a gem. I'm afraid it didn't achieve, for me, the effect that the author was gunning for; rather, it produced, let us say a somewhat humorous reception. But what can you do with a bonk in which, in order to make an apple pie, the characters first feel they must create the universe.I refer specifically to the part where, in order to und [...]

    • Joselito Honestly and Brilliantly says:

      Rich couple, pass middle-age. For both, their second marriage. The lady has a young, beautiful foster-daughter and the gentleman has a friend, a former military man (the Captain). Both come to live with them.The gentleman and the foster-daughter fall in love with each other; the lady and the Major do likewise. From here, Goethe developed his story interspersed with quotable aphorisms about love, marriage, man, woman, relationships, religion and what not. It might have provided scandal and titill [...]

    • Chiara Fedeli says:

      Si deve avere la costanza di leggere fino a 50 pagine dalla fine per poter trovare azione e risoluzione a questo romanzo, che si conclude tragicamente come le più classiche opere romantiche, di cui peraltro Goethe è emblematico padre.Del resto, se si esclude il finale, tutta l'opera sembra essere un escamotage narrativo per poter esporre attraverso i diversi personaggi gli argomenti cari allo scrittore, temi tipici del Romanticismo, che vanno dall'ammirazione per l'arte e la classicità all'el [...]

    • Asa says:

      This is the first Goethe I've read since I was forced to read Werther in school, mostly because I hated Werther and thought he was melodramatic and felt sorry for poor Charlotte who didn't deserve to be dragged into his mess. Since this was how I felt about Edvard and Ottilie as well, I think I have to accept that Goethe isn't for me. There are some books I read where I feel like the author pays attention to the wrong part of the story. In the beginning, there are two pairs of lovers, but somewh [...]

    • Ian says:

      Elective Affinities comprises the exploration of a simple conceit -- that human relationships are governed by forces similar to those acting in chemical reactions -- executed meticulously and gloriously. Starting from the relatively stable equilibrium of an apparently happy marriage, new characters are introduced into the experiment (set in the crucible of the grounds and house of a German estate), and things fall apart.The novel is impeccably structured and paced, and has some of the most perfe [...]

    • Bene says:

      “La coscienza di amare e di essere amato lo sprona verso l’infinito”“Una parola esplicita è terribile quando manifesta improvvisamente ciò che il cuore da lungo tempo si è consentito”Non possiamo imparare a conoscere le persone quando vengono da noi; dobbiamo noi andare da loro per vedere quello che sono.“Le difficoltà aumentano via via che s’avvicina la meta.”In qualsiasi modo si immagina noi stessi sempre ci immaginiamo veggenti. Credo che l'uomo sogni unicamente per non ce [...]

    • Cecily says:

      Analysis of the meaning and difficulties of marriage, especially the effect of other people. The first third is more thoughtful and analytical; the remainder slightly more plot-driven. The mannered, detached and somewhat unnatural style (though apparently typical of a common German novel form of the time) is slightly reminiscent of Ivy Compton-Burnett, and makes the whole experience rather unengaging.

    • Elisa says:

      Che strazio.

    • Reni says:

      Die natürliche Anziehungskraft (Ist es noch Lust? Ist es schon Liebe?) hält nichts auf. Nur ist das in diesem Roman mal nichts Positives. Goethe schildert in Die Wahlverwandtschaften anschaulich den Konflikt zwischen gesellschaftlichen Erwartungen und der Leidenschaft, dem Trieb, der Chemie, die zwischen den Menschen herrscht. Tatsächlich ist der Titel des Romans aus dem Bereich der Chemie entnommen (Goehte war schließlich ein echter Renaissancemensch, und Hobbynaturwissenschaftler).In diese [...]

    • Jos says:

      I forgot that I've read this before and only after reading the first pages I remembered it. Doesn't speak for the persistence of the book.Here's what stayed in my mind two weeks after finishing it:- Love life was as confusing 200 years ago as it is today. Men always were on the lookout for young women.- Analogies between chemical elements and coupling activities of humans can be drawn.- People had strange pastimes at the time. Posing on a stage in an effort to depict famous paintings?- Two out o [...]

    • kasia says:

      I think the translation is partly to blame for why I didn't particularly enjoy this one: the language is awkward and stilted, with wooden dialogue and unnecessarily archaic terms. The plot, though, isn't especially well handled either. A couple invites to separate houseguests to stay with them, the husband's friend and the wife's foster niece, and finds their marriage rocked by their attractions to the newcomers. The novella is apparently meant to be a meditation on the power of marriage versus [...]

    • Martinis says:

      Abbiamo commesso una pazzia: ora lo vedo fin troppo bene.Chi, giunto ad una certa età, vuole realizzare sogni e speranze di gioventù, si inganna sempre, giacché nell'uomo ogni dieci anni cambia il concetto delle felicità, cambiano le speranze e le prospettive.Guai a colui che, dalle circostanze o dall'illusione, viene indotto ad aggrapparsi al futuro o al passato!Abbiamo commesso una pazzia.Dovremmo, per una sorta di scrupolo, rinunciare a ciò che i costumi del nostro tempo non ci vietano? [...]

    • Frank says:

      Pffffff.I'm sure this is a masterpiece of sorts, and bristling with interesting metaphors and parallels and mirrored storylines. But fostering narrative interest, creating interesting characters, these, surely, are matters beneath the great German author's dignity.And the works age is no excuse. He wrote this roughly in the same time Jane Austen started to write her novels, and Jonathan Swift, Henry Fielding and Laurence Sterne had already been celebrated for decades for theirs. People did know [...]

    • Kastoori says:

      This book is steady with its pace and the plot has been very skillfully and maturely executed, but my personal opinion is that The Sorrows of Young Werther is a much more powerful work than this (perhaps because the romantic sentiments of Werther happen to be exponentially more powerful that Eduard's and Ottilie's). Nevertheless, this book is a very splendid realistic rendering of the country-side aristocracy. Though, not as gripping as The Sorrows of Young Werther, the way, Goethe has introduce [...]

    • Francesco says:

      Letteratura.Splendido e sorprendente. Traduzione del 1957 piena di fascino. A mio modo di vedere, la storia della progressiva distruzione di una donna sensibile, silenziosamente ribelle al costume del tempo, da parte dei suoi compagni di vita, che dietro alla maschera dell'affetto e dell'amore la conducono a perdere anche lei la sua (pur fragile) identità. Un dramma che rivela molto sulle dinamiche dei rapporti umani.

    • Edward says:

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    • Fefs Messina says:

      Difficile incontrare una coppia involontariamente più odiosa di Edoardo e Ottilia, in letteratura.La figura della donna angelicata ha da tempo perso ogni attrattiva per me, e se la sopporto in poesia -perchè necessaria-, in prosa la odio perchè risulta sempre un personaggio sopravvalutato e troppo irreale per poter essere preso sul serio. Perciò la santità di Ottilia mi è risultata insopportabile, specialmente mentre mi avvicinavo al finale.Non parliamo poi di Edoardo! Un uomo che passa le [...]

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